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Dear Chief Beck, for those of us hard working men and women who worked so tireously in preparing and banding well on the current Sergeants and Detective Lists, can you find ways to extend the lists. We have sacraficed overtime pay to reach the City's goals and at the same time we are sacraficing promotions and if the lists die our families suffer. I am willing to forego the promotional pay just to be promoted, and when the budget gets better, then the can kick in the pay. This way no one gets denied earned promotions, and morale will boost because the City listened. Its a win win sit.

And Chief Beck, your hard-working civilians are getting weary of being the sacrificial lambs for the problems of the City budget, by taking more and more furlough time, with no end in sight. We are not "non-essential" employees, as we have been referred to numerous times...we are your 911 operators, emergency equipment mechanics, civilian property and detention officers, records clerks, etc. And to know that there are probably more than 26 furlough days ahead of us for next fiscal year doesn't do much for our morale, or make us believe that we are anything besides "non-essential"...

Anonymous hit it right on the head! Extend the lists and work it out with the union and the labor board. We will take the promotions and when the city get back on it's feet, they can comense the pay at that time and not have to pay back pay. We'll sign that form, write it up. If you can make that happen Chief, you will see morale go through the roof!!!!!

I like what Anonymous is saying! As you know the city initiated the hard freeze starting August/September 2009, which caused everyone on the promotional lists to freeze for almost 6 months. I was 13 spots away from making det.

In March of 2010 the new Det list was initiated and activated causing everyone from the prior frozen list to expire with no extension of the list.

Chief it would be the right thing to do recognize the hard working men and women that were on that 2009 det list and were frozen by the cities crisis. Just as Anonymous stated: " We have sacraficed overtime pay to reach the City's goals and at the same time we are sacraficing promotions and if the lists die our families suffer. I am willing to forego the promotional pay just to be promoted, and when the budget gets better, then the can kick in the pay. This way no one gets denied earned promotions, and morale will boost because the City listened. Its a win win sit" Well said.

Chief as you can see theres alot of us being sacrificed and denied by our own department due to the cities crisis. Do the right thing.

Eliminate public workers right to bargain collectively.

Chief Beck let's make it happen, promotions this year, 2011. Sell this concept to promote Sgts/Dets to forego the pay until the City figures out it's priorities and promises to the people to in making the City of Los Angeles the Safest city in America. Sgts are needed badly in the field, this will assist the young officers and insuring they go home safe. Too many IOD Sgts.

Sir, I also believe that all of us on the Sergeant's list will be willing to accept the promotion without the pay raise or retro pay later when the economy improves. Therefore, it shouldn't burden the city's finances....we just don't want to die on the list which we all have been on for the past 2 years....

All this make sense......on paper. In reality, the Chief can't do anything about promoting people without the pay. There is a pesky little thing in his way: the City Charter and Civil Service rules. The charter can only be changed by putting it to a public vote. By doing that, you might get more than you bargained for.

Just a thought.

The Chief of Police, The Police Commission, The Union, City Leaders, lets unite and do the right thing, take care of your gaurdians Police and Fire ought to be promoted when deserved, you folks are greedy when it comes to your pay "city council" or your promoting of DCP's C/O's etc, the list must be extended or stand by for morale to hit the fan, stress related health issues created by lack of opportunities in the so called equal opportunities workplace. Mayor Villaraigosa and finance hiring committee enough is enough, stop denying our promotions. You asked for ways to help with the budget, listen to these suggestions!

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